Friday, October 16, 2009

Fedora 11 serving for Debian/Ubuntu user

Day 1 in Fedora 11:

I was a hard core Redhat and Fedora fan till I discover the Debian and Ubuntu. My last long term used Fedora version was FC5 (Core 5) after that I did try many times to use and install fedora on my laptop/desktop but I never used it for more than 3-4 days, Yum disappointed me everytime I used it. First it used to show some message "waiting for other process to finish" and that used to take ages to finish. Then actual searching and install package was nightmare. I started using linux on Redhat 5 in 1998 and till now I have used Redhat 6,7,8,9 RHEL 3,4,5. Fedora 1,2,3,4,5
Because of this long association with Redhat & Fedora I keep visiting back to to this distro.

This is my one more attempt of using Fedora 11. I logged in to on the fedoraforum.org site to solve my first problem after install FC 11 on my HP Pavilion dv8305 Laptop. I have installed FC11 with KDE 4.2.

Now First thing I'm doing is to upgrade KDE 4.2 to 4.3 and when searched on KDE site I found a link for KDE 4.3 in Fedora 11 but I couldnt understand how to upgrade. So I search on www.fedoraforums.org and found following link in discussion http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/ I followed that and here is what the site says

yum
Download
Fedora: kde.repo
RedHat Enterprise (and compatibles: CentOS, Scientific Linux, etc...) kde.repo
and drop it in /etc/yum.repos.d/
Note to x86_64 users: You may have to enable both x86_64 and i386 repos.
To install, a simple
yum groupupdate kde-desktop
yum update
ought to fetch and install the packages for you.
To keep up to date, you can periodically run
yum update
on your system as well.

Well I followed the exact instructions and viola! I have KDE 4.3.2 on Fedora 11.

Soon I discovered that, The important step for almost all Fedora users is to install http://rpmfusion.org
rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm

KDE 4.3 is really nice Window Manager however I personally feel that It will be really ready to take on GNome again when it reaches 4.5 version and not before that!
Also during installation in Fedora 11 when I selected KDE 4 as my Desktop I was expecting that all the rest of the packages will be automatically selected that are designed for KDE. However it was disappointing to discover that I found all GNome based packages were selected and I had to unselect all of them one by one select the KDE/QT based packages. That's bad on Fedora's side.

Day 2:
Somehow for last 2 days I'm experiencing freezing issue in Fedora. I noticed it happened when I started Firefox. I repeatedly removed .mozilla profile from my Home directory but no luck. Seems some other issue is there. The bad part is when it freezes it also freezes my OS forcing me to press power off button. Surprisingly I never saw fedora starting the fsck for my file system even when i have shutdown my laptop by pressing power button.

I ran into problem with my external USB HDD which has ntfs file system. This drives works without a issue in debian/ubuntu not sure why it is not working in Fedora 11
Here are log messages:

Oct 18 01:11:25 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
Oct 18 01:11:26 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=058f, idProduct=6391
Oct 18 01:11:26 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Oct 18 01:11:26 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: Product: USB TO IDE Bridge
Oct 18 01:11:26 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Generic
Oct 18 01:11:26 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Oct 18 01:11:29 localhost kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Oct 18 01:11:42 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
Oct 18 01:11:55 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
Oct 18 01:12:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
Oct 18 01:12:17 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
Oct 18 01:12:30 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
Oct 18 01:12:33 localhost kernel: scsi 6:0:0:0: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery

Its been a day since I posted my problem on www.fedoraforum.org however I still have not found a solution to it. All though I did receive a reply to my post but didnot receive a solution.

After week:
After waiting for solution from various forums and trying everything possible I had to give up on Fedora 11 as my all data is on 500GB external disk.

I decided to install Beta KUbuntu 9.10, inorder to stick with KDE 4.3.2 and it detected my Disk very well. Also now I have updated it on daily basis and now I have 9.10 KUbuntu working very well. However I'm not happy with KPackagekit at all. I hope it will improve in near future.